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Sly_Rocker
Posted 12/25/2006 1:12:43 PM
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*phew* Beat Ready Steady Go on Hard on my second try. Nice. I think JJF is a tiny bit harder, but they're both insane. JJF has those annoying clumps of notes, and RSG has tight lines of them. So far, I kinda like Ouendan's soundtrack better, but that might just be because I've played EBA's to death.

I really hope iNis makes an "International" game, with cheer squads and songs from different countries. I might go blind from the awesome if that happened. I mean, EBA outsold friggin GTA.

And my parents got me way too many games this year. It's gonna take me at least till next Christmas to get through all of these. T_T I'm loving the non-game presents I got this year a lot, though. I got these really awesome headphones that I promptly tried out with Ouendan.
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ajain02
Posted 12/25/2006 2:39:26 PM
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http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3156060

This article is great. It's a Christmas present list for members of gaming industry, and it's pretty damn harsh at times (just look at the first one - a one-year Xbox Live Gold subscription to Phil Harrison of Sony so he can see how online gaming is supposed to work) - and it's great. (I especially like the very last one, an apology to Rare because Viva Piñata ended up being an awesome game.)
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ajain02
Posted 12/25/2006 2:52:17 PM
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I mean, EBA outsold friggin GTA.

Wow, really? That makes me happy. :)
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ajain02
Posted 12/25/2006 2:54:24 PM
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Oh, and for the triple post - that "WII ROX" spelled out in PS3 pic is from a woot.com sale of PS3s. It's completely hilarious:

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/woot-ps3soh-wait-223783.php

This is the sales pitch they used with the PS3:

So, hey, check it out: there's this awesome new gaming system that we just can't stop playing. Too bad it's so hard to find in stores - we guess they just didn't make enough of them. It's called the Nintendo Wii, and holy mother of Zelda, is it ever a blast. If the Wii is cool with polygamy, we might ask it to marry us.

The controller - so easy! No more intricate push-this-twice, pull-that-three-times trickery, just easy waves of the hand. The console - so cute! It actually makes our gaming room look better, unlike the bulky, ugly consoles we could mention. How does Nintendo keep the price so low on that thing, anyway? And the games, good Lord, the games! Not to mention those adorable avatars. We've already created virtual versions of the entire staff, so we can beat each other virtually-bloody instead of actually-bloody, like we usually do. The only problem is that none of the nose options are as big as Jason's actual nose. But that's a minor quibble.

In fact, we love the Wii so much, we want to give a Wii to everybody on our payroll. To fund this Wii-for-the-People program, we're selling this Sony PlayStation 3. The SIXAXIS wireless controller is basically the same complicated gazillion-button-style controller you know from past PS models, but at least you won't be fighting Grandma for gaming time. Along with the usual roster of ho-hum games, the PS3 can play CDs, DVDs, and Blu-Ray discs, and the 20GB hard drive can store music, videos, and music videos. It's certainly, er, rather full-figured, for those of you who want a lot of heft for your money. And its HDMI capabilities give you polygons and frames-per-second out the wazoo, if you prefer that stuff to having fun.

Best of all, for every PS3 you buy, we can buy Wiis for two of our employees. So when you get frustrated by those intricate combo-button moves, or bored by the underwhelming game offerings for the PS3, keep the spirit of the season in mind. Remember all those happy Woot staffers whose lives have been changed by their super-fun Nintendo Wiis, paid for by you. Heartwarming, isn't it?


...every unit still sold in under 5 minutes. >_<
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Sly_Rocker
Posted 12/26/2006 12:42:21 AM
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WTF, I can't beat RSG again. ;o_0 I just realized how good I must have been doing when I aced it.

For those curious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQDOQmcaTM

You have to play the song almost perfectly or else you will lose.

And it makes me happy too, ajain. :)
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MOTHER 3
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Impossible II
Posted 12/26/2006 12:54:00 AM
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I'm not sure why you're whining already, you haven't even reached Insane.
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Wacky
Posted 12/26/2006 12:54:44 AM
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How petty...he doesn't even participate in the "attack" and you are being uncivil to him.

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Impossible II
Posted 12/26/2006 12:56:55 AM
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I'm not being uncivil to him (if you'd played Ouendan you might get it more), and I don't understand why you feel the need to bring arguments into every topic you can. Why don't you just make your own topic?
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Wacky
Posted 12/26/2006 1:01:35 AM
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You're being uncivil, Impy. Cease being uncivil, Impy. If you do not cease being uncivil, Impy, great consequences will occur for your uncivil behavior (notice the correct spelling?).

Now you're truly being a hypocrite with that crap about spreading arguments.

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Neeyahaha
Posted 12/26/2006 11:35:08 AM
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I belive he's being 'whiny' because he found that level difficult. And his posts weren't 'whiny'. They were comments on how hard the game is. 'Whining' is when you make a rant, *****ing about something that doesn't really matter. It could be a game, a company's decision, or even about a country you're visiting.
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BladeOfSephiroth1234
Posted 12/27/2006 11:12:22 AM
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Meteos Disney looks like ass, and I don't think I like the sideways-DS play. It works on slow paced games like Brain Age, I dunno about this.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/740/740583/meteos-disney-magic-20061019063906597.jpg

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Neeyahaha
Posted 12/27/2006 11:31:08 AM
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I've been against it since it was first announced. Hell, I'm against almost everything Disney. Except Cool Runnings. And maybe a couple other decent movies I've forgotten.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/27/2006 4:59:41 PM
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Cool Runnings was pwn.
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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 5:47:08 PM
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I wasn't referring to that post as much as some of the more whiny comments I have seen LR make. Like suggesting that RSG Hard is one of the hardest video game challenges he's seen, but he's going a bit over the top for someone who hasn't actually finished the game yet.

Yoshi's Island DS is getting very good, and I'm not progressing much. The third boss in particular was very awesome, and I want to see more DS games use ideas like that... I could see an entire game, of any genre, based around something similar, working well.
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MacDaddy Mike
Posted 12/28/2006 5:56:54 PM
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Hector the Reflector is mega-cool, but he's still not my favorite boss of the game. The Goonie boss fight kicks ass.

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AdmiralViscen IV
Posted 12/28/2006 6:02:49 PM
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Yea, LR really knows how to overblow a situation.

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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 6:22:48 PM
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Well, it would be accurate to say that the boss fights in general, while easy, kick a lot of ass. YI boss fights have always been better than 2D Mario ones anyway. I'm not so compelled by the game that I have to rush through it like with NSMB, but that might just be because I don't have time. It is starting to get quite awesome, and this is only in the second world.

Why is information about one of the babies in the game considered by some people to be a spoiler? At least, I'm sure I've seen it referred to that way, but he's in the manual and on the box. Weird.
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Cauchys Inequality
Posted 12/28/2006 6:51:41 PM
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In general, I didn't enjoy the boss fights of Yoshi's Island DS nearly as much as I enjoyed the boss fights of Yoshi's Island.

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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 7:05:56 PM
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By the way, does anyone remember who it was who said they were going to send me JFA? I've been trying to contact them somehow. Just in case I could, theoretically, pre-order it myself in New York the day before it comes out and not need it to be sent to me. Not sure if that would work. Do they need more advance warning?
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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 7:06:26 PM
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And don't ask me why e-mailing him doesn't seem to be working, unless I got the address wrong.
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AdmiralViscen IV
Posted 12/28/2006 7:11:04 PM
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Jet Force Anarchy?

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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 7:16:39 PM
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Not sure. The address I have is reversible_dessert@hotmail.com, but since he didn't respond to my last two e-mails I'm starting to wonder if it was Yahoo or something, not Hotmail.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/28/2006 7:26:25 PM
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Impy, explain to me how saying "RSG is one of the hardest video game challenges I've experienced" is whiny. It's not, I'm not going "Waaah this is too hard I can't do this I hate this", I'm merely commenting on the difficulty of the song, which is something about everyone can agree on. Just because you've beat it on Insane doesn't make it any less difficult. I don't see why I get targeting for something I'm not whining about. Way to call the kettle black.

Yea, LR really knows how to overblow a situation.

The Zelda thing is the only thing I can think of that I overblew, and I agree that wasn't mature of me. But I don't know why Impy is attacking me all of the sudden. His high and mighty attitude is starting to annoy me. His initial comment didn't bother me, but he's the one overblowing this situation. I don't know what we're even arguing about. Jesus.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/28/2006 7:32:25 PM
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I'm also totally against the idea of Disney Meteos. Part of Meteos's charm was all of the weird planets and quirky aliens. Disney... it kinda takes the fun out of it. Plus, I have a feeling the "book" style would be cumbersome and give me cramps, and the lack of any real gameplay additions (other than horizontal moving. WTF is up with that?) is rather ridiculous.
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MOTHER 3
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FalconPain
Posted 12/28/2006 7:35:30 PM
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Neeyahaha
Posted 12/28/2006 7:58:48 PM
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AV was being sarcastic, LR. You don't overblow things at all.

And Impy, if he thinks RSG is the hardest he's seen, even if there's more stuff later, it's probably becuase he hasn't even gotten to the stuff later on. The stuff later can't be the hardest he's ever seen if he's never seen it.

And I think it was Deity who could get Jet Force Anarchy for you.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/28/2006 8:02:08 PM
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Argh, I suck at detecting e-sarcasm. Though I still think I overblew my complaints about Zelda TP being two different versions and such. Seems silly now.

Speaking of Zelda, a demo of that OoT 2D project I mentioned is going to be released tomorrow.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=11029

Look interesting. Though didn't we have Link to the- *shot*
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MOTHER 3
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AdmiralViscen IV
Posted 12/28/2006 11:32:22 PM
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Nee hit it.

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Impossible II
Posted 12/28/2006 11:59:10 PM
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AV was being sarcastic, LR. You don't overblow things at all.

And Impy, if he thinks RSG is the hardest he's seen, even if there's more stuff later, it's probably becuase he hasn't even gotten to the stuff later on. The stuff later can't be the hardest he's ever seen if he's never seen it.


I don't understand why AV can be sarcastic and I can't. That hardly seems fair.
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MacDaddy Mike
Posted 12/29/2006 7:55:23 AM
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Impy, your sarcasm is on the same level as Jack Thompson's satire.

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Deity42
Posted 12/29/2006 8:38:08 AM
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I can (and would) get JFA, but we never came to a deal.

I don't know why he would want it any way, it might have some "incorrect" words in the translation.
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AdmiralViscen IV
Posted 12/29/2006 9:44:07 AM
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Because I'm good at it. Do questions get simpler than this one? Sometimes one person is better at something than another. There's nothing fair or unfair about it. Jesus.

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Impossible II
Posted 12/29/2006 9:50:22 AM
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See, AV gets it. He's not mean.
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AdmiralViscen IV
Posted 12/29/2006 11:56:46 AM
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1980 article predicts the video games of 2000.
http://www.datarealms.com/devlog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/fog.gif


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Deity42
Posted 12/29/2006 11:59:27 AM
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So the ultimate game is StarFox. That's settled then.
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Strider
Posted 12/29/2006 12:00:15 PM
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I don't think that guy went to far out on a limb when he made these predictions. Most of them seem to be things that they were trying to do at the time, and only needed a little more time to make them work. Of course that could have been the purpose.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/29/2006 8:47:34 PM
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Oh snap. Sorry Impy.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=11066

Another confirmation of VC games being locked to previous territory releases
A portion of a Revogamers interview with Ernesto Fernánez-Maquieira, product manager for Nintendo of Europe.

RG: One question about the Virtual Console: Many readers put hope in the Virtual Console to enjoy the classics that didn’t make it to the European Market such as Mario RPG for SNES. Is there any hope?

EF: We will see only games that were released in Europe in the past for the Virtual Console, and they will come in the same original languages that they were released.



I want to slap Nintendo sometimes.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/29/2006 8:48:11 PM
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Oh, and if it's any consolation, the Wii is almost hacked. Or so I hear.
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Neeyahaha
Posted 12/29/2006 10:49:26 PM
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I got Star Fox music in my head yesterday, and remembered that someone once said that the original has better music than 64, and now that I've compared them, I may have to agree. But, I played 64 more, and so it has greater meaning.

The rest of you can take that how ever you want. Respond, ignore, whatever.
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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/30/2006 12:07:34 AM
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Original had SLIGHTLY better music. And that's it.

Anyways, I think I may have to dust off my PSP. Holy ****, PS1 emu has been haXxed to work without a PS3 AND with your own games.

FFIX on the go = *dies*

I need to figure out how to do this. I suck at this type of thing.
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MOTHER 3
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Polas
Posted 12/30/2006 12:23:44 AM
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:Presses Down & Start:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs9/genmessage.php?board=548&topic=32570361

That should point you in the right direction.

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Deity42
Posted 12/30/2006 12:37:03 PM
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The original has much better music than 64.

Matter of fact I'd consider the end credits theme the best of the entire series.
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Impossible II
Posted 12/30/2006 5:03:39 PM
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http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2006/12/radio-allergy-radirgy-to-blast-onto-us.html

A GameCube shooter coming out next year, wow. Anyone ever heard of it? I wonder if we could see more ports on the GCN, or even marked as Wii games but being compatible with both. Not that this one will sell anything with a name like "Radio Allergy".

On the topic of games that won't sell, I'm now officially interested in the next Atlus game:

http://www.siliconera.com/index.php/2006/12/29/nich-maragos-on-izuna-legend-of-the-unemployed-ninja/

Atlus have picked plenty of stinkers among awesome games, though, so there's no telling what will happen. Especially since it's a Mysterious Dungeon type game...
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Impossible II
Posted 12/30/2006 6:39:40 PM
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On the topic of Star Fox music... Does anyone else think the music after a level in SF64 sounds a lot like the music at the very end of the credits in OoT? With the bell chiming noise and everything.
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Polas
Posted 12/30/2006 6:52:00 PM
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http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/711/711726p1.html

It's no Ikaruga, but it's something.

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Lion Rocker
Posted 12/31/2006 10:07:07 PM
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Who shoved a rat up Europe's ass?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156100

Basically, if you can't open it, NoE is pissed about people importing Pokemon D/P, and are talking about cease and desist stuff.

Better not close down Play-Asia.

If they're that concerned about sales, then they should translate faster. It's their own fault.
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LordNosferatu
Posted 12/31/2006 10:13:08 PM
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I'm really liking the new Zelda. Just beat the Forest Temple
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Mars
Posted 1/1/2007 2:40:54 AM
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FFXII on a PS2
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/Flumshid/TitlePS2.jpg

FFXII on a PS3
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q154/Flumshid/TitlePS3.jpg
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Neeyahaha
Posted 1/1/2007 9:48:58 PM
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Once you get BEYOND, the jagged edges enhance the gameplay.
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scientist pg
Posted 1/2/2007 4:44:01 AM
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Does anyone else think the music after a level in SF64 sounds a lot like the music at the very end of the credits in OoT? With the bell chiming noise and everything.

I didn't make this connection, though I'm not too surprised. I believe Kondo did SF64's main theme and some of the transition music such as that track, and the map screen. The stage music is very subdued compared to the original, though fits the cinematic nature of the game perfectly. I probably haven't listened to the original's soundtrack enough, however.

Also, SF64's second boss theme (used for the alternate Corneria boss and others), along with the alarm noise when you're low on health, send chills down my spine.

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