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From: SirPaidalot | Posted: 2/25/2003 7:39:38 PM | Message Detail
I thought Oracle of Seasons was pretty good, but once Id beaten it I didnt feel like going through a second time. Ive never played Pikmin
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From: Duel007 | Posted: 2/25/2003 8:20:19 PM | Message Detail
Yes Sci, but it was kinda tricky since Jaws and Baren Samedi were in the game, and since the very last level was so hard to get, it took me a while.
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From: jman009 | Posted: 2/26/2003 1:09:14 PM | Message Detail
Well i completed Star Fox Adventures today. having got the game last tuesday and completing today i'd have to say it was a realy good game I enjoyed 95%, the game being 5% ladders. I also enjoyed the final cutscene after the final boss. in all it will make a nice part exchange towards my next game.
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From: AdmiralViscen IV | Posted: 2/26/2003 5:06:16 PM | Message Detail
StarFox Adventures sucks.

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From: scientist pg | Posted: 2/27/2003 12:46:16 AM | Message Detail
Contra for GC fell through, but this might be more likely. At least, NewTechnix seems pretty good for reporting early news accurately, most of the time:

This is from http://www.gamecubeland.com/index.php?page=news&news_id=692

gamecubeland? o_O

Newtechnix has a very interesting story up (if you can read it.) Basically it says that Nintendo of Europe reported that Metal Gear Solid is being remade for the Cube by Konami with help from NCL. Why is Europe getting this info first? Well, Shiggy was just there, and problably told the guys @ NoE who couldn't keep their mouths shut (luckly for us).
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 2/27/2003 12:50:12 AM | Message Detail
!! I forgot to say, but R-Type Final is going to be released this summer in Japan for the PS2. Certainly, this is excellent news (a bit worried about 'Final' being in the title though...)
Although no North American release has been announced, Delta came out here, so hopefully Final is somewhat likely.

So even if the upcoming castlevania isn't 2D, I still would have another 2D game to get for the system!
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 2/27/2003 9:30:12 PM | Message Detail
http://www.irem.co.jp/official/rfinal/

Some great screens, and what looks to be a very extensive ship/force-device system, with what seems like over 50 to pick from. o_O Can we say...overdoing? Still, they must be going all out...apparently an interview with the R-Type designer in Famitsu reveals that this is the last R-Type there will be- indeed, the final game of one of the most famous and innovative series' of 2D shooters...apparently IREM (or whoever has the say), said this is it, and they won't even publish another, because 2D shooters don't sell. What a disgrace! Very, very sad news. But unless it turns out to suck like Super R-Type (doubtful, as R-Type 3 and Delta are very high quality), I'll have to get this- a release over here seems somewhat likely I guess....apparently IREM releases most of their games overseas.
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The Scientist knows best... "No one [mainstream] would ever think to pay full price for a game with only an X and Y axis." -alpha5099
From: jman009 | Posted: 2/28/2003 10:54:04 AM | Message Detail
(a bit worried about 'Final' being in the title though...)

meh.. never worry about Final in titles. look at those Final Fantasy games, more like the Never ending story.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 2/28/2003 1:05:51 PM | Message Detail
Heh heh.

FINAL Fantasy.....

FINAL Fantasy....ten!

hmmmm

FINAL Fantasy....ten....-two!
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From: Kasumi Pwns You | Posted: 2/28/2003 1:10:42 PM | Message Detail
Console Game of the Year - Splinter Cell
Handheld Game of the Year - Metroid Fusion
First-Person Action Game of the Year - Metroid Prime
Role-Playing Game of the Year - Animal Crossing
Sports Game of the Year - Madden NFL 2003
Racing Game of the Year - Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2
Family Title of the Year - Mario Party 4
Innovation in Console Gaming - Animal Crossing
Outstanding Achievement in Character and Story - Eternal Darkness
Outstanding Achievement in Game Design - Animal Crossing
Outstanding Achievement in Gameplay Engineering - Splinter Cell
Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering - The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Outstanding Achievement in Original Music Composition - Medal of Honor: Frontline
Outstanding Achievement in Sound Design: Medal of Honor: Frontline

GotY overall was Battlefield 1942.

MWAHAHAHA! A spit in the face of Cory, I love it, I love it A LOT.
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From: SniperScope998 | Posted: 2/28/2003 2:54:29 PM | Message Detail
SFA is a fine game IMHO.
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From: AdmiralViscen IV | Posted: 2/28/2003 3:37:52 PM | Message Detail
SniperScope has bad opinions.

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From: Blistered Otter | Posted: 2/28/2003 4:06:44 PM | Message Detail
So... why exactly are the A.I.A.S.'s awards considered "official" again?
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/2/2003 5:01:26 PM | Message Detail
They're official for AIAS, just like the official Scientist awards are official Scientist awards.

Reading through the recent Miyamoto/Aonuma interview, several new things crop up. First of all (and unfortunately), it seems Miyamoto 'n friends at EAD are still putting all this dang emphasis on linking the GBA to the GC. I mean, it's a nice thing to do, and it can have some innovative ideas and such, but come on. I think they're pushing it too far as something cool- they're banking too much on it to pull them through. Part of this is that I have no real interest in it, but honestly, do you see people buying a GameCube or GBA thinking, "oh cool, I'm gonna get to link up my systems"

Miyamoto said a new DK game is in the works. We know nothing else, and probably won't for quite a while, but good to know Nintendo will keep the greatest of apes alive even without Rare.

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From: AdmiralViscen IV | Posted: 3/2/2003 5:02:58 PM | Message Detail
I don't think they're trying to make it amazing or cool, anymore. Right now they're just trying to make it mainstream, and normal. Just like Rumble Paks.

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From: Habnot | Posted: 3/2/2003 5:04:29 PM | Message Detail
I'd dance happily, but I never got the best ending in DK2. 99%, I loan to my younger cousins, come to get it back and found out they deleted it. So now I never got back to my former glory.
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From: Shhhh | Posted: 3/3/2003 12:48:36 AM | Message Detail
I just played Zero Gunner 2 (you played it?). So far it's pretty good, I like it more than Ikaruga. Rez is good too. I don't completely know what the hell is going but god damn, have you played it yet? I think it's in the same category as Ikaruga and Zero Gunner 2. I can't explain it, it's crazy,
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From: jman009 | Posted: 3/3/2003 9:21:17 AM | Message Detail
For all of you who are missing a Mario Kart alternative, Kirby's Air ride seems to be an interesting one to follow. I know the Pink puffester is full of more wind than the ZSBs AV himself but This game could be what your looking for now there won't be a DKR 2 or Donkey Kong Racing.

That reminds me whats happened to Diddy Kong Pilot?
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/3/2003 1:26:40 PM | Message Detail
Diddy Kong Pilot looks like it's been quietly tucked away...I don't really mind though, it's Donkey Kong Racing which bugs me, as that's the one Rare game I really wanted for GC, besides Perfect Dark 2.

If Kirby's Air Ride comes out this year, I'll have to pass it up though, in favor of F-Zero and possibly Mario Kart.

I just played Zero Gunner 2 (you played it?). So far it's pretty good, I like it more than Ikaruga. Rez is good too. I don't completely know what the hell is going but god damn, have you played it yet?

No, I barely know what Zero Gunner is, beyond the name. As far as Rez goes, I've seen some shots and a video, and it looks pretty crazy...computer-stylized wireframe type graphics it seems, and I heard that the music changes depending on what you do, like if you fire, beats are added to the music. I typically like music that plays in sync with what you're doing, and it looks like Rez goes all out. I don't have a DC so I haven't played it; I know there's a PS2 version though too, although I heard it's pretty rare already.

It seems to be a rail shooter, which I don't like as much as a normal 2D one, but Star Fox is okay. Sin and Punishment looks like a fantastic N64 rail shooter, though it was Japan only. I need to maybe look into that and Rez if I ever get a chance. And then we have Panzer Dragoon Orta for Xbox...while I've heard it isn't any better than at least one of the Saturn games in the series, it still appears quite good, though it's the only Xbox game I give a crap about at the moment.

Bangai-O is the other main Dreamcast game I want (actually, the main one, since I'm getting Ikaruga for GC). Have you played that? The premise sounds insane; the closer you are to death (as in, the proximity you are to enemy shots), the more missiles you pump out of your body.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/4/2003 2:41:29 AM | Message Detail
Ghouls and Ghosts Online? Whoo!

Of course, I have no idea how they'll do it, but it's something I definitely didn't expect...
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The Scientist knows best... "No one [mainstream] would ever think to pay full price for a game with only an X and Y axis." -alpha5099
From: Cauchys Inequality | Posted: 3/4/2003 6:27:09 AM | Message Detail
Rez is very much fun. I own the PS2 version, and I always enjoy playing it.

It's hardly much of a shooter. You have no control over where you go – your path is predetermined and there's nothing you can do about it. You move a crosshair around the screen, and by holding X and moving the crosshair over enemies, you can lock on to up to 8 at once. Then, by releasing X, you fire. It's pretty simple and not very challenging, because since there's no ability to dodge projectiles, the developers made them all really easy to destroy.

That's not the important part, though. The music is what makes this game great. Each time you press X, or make a lock-on, or destroy an enemy, you get a unique trance-style sound effect. When you fire your lock-on, for instance, shots will go out to hit the enemies, and each shot near-instantly hits, but the shots are released at 16-th note intervals, so as the enemies die, you get very cool trance beats. In addition, if you get a lock of 4 or 8, you'll get a extra little trance-style "riff," adding to the fun sounds. The music is always pumping, and it's very cool, especially when you fight bosses, who have tons of targets.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/5/2003 3:25:27 PM | Message Detail
Yes, from the screens it didn't seem like it was the type like even Star Fox, where you have some freedeom of movement. Though, it sounds quite interesting. When I get a PS2 I will perhaps get this game, if I can find it.

In other news, there are several RUMORS now that Mother 3 is indeed in development for GC. Good news indeed- Earthbound for SNES is a good game, anyway.
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From: jman009 | Posted: 3/5/2003 3:40:22 PM | Message Detail
The lost Starfox 2 coming to GBA. hurray!
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From: Polas | Posted: 3/5/2003 7:22:29 PM | Message Detail
It scares me that I was working on my giant Karnov thing when this topic first started. I just re-noticed that.

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From: jungle fighter zeb | Posted: 3/6/2003 9:20:05 AM | Message Detail
SniperScope has bad opinions
AdmiralViscen IV has bad message board etiquette....
... and couldn't smell a good game if it's essence was bottled and trickled down his nose as some sort of bizarre game-perfume-nose-drip-torture as a punishment for dismissing SniperScope in such a harsh way.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/6/2003 12:04:09 PM | Message Detail
There's your misinformed quote of the day, AV.
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From: AdmiralViscen IV | Posted: 3/6/2003 12:05:05 PM | Message Detail
Thankee kindly, Sci.

...Too long though. What part do you think should be sigged?

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From: jungle fighter zeb | Posted: 3/6/2003 6:40:56 PM | Message Detail
I fail to see the 'misinformed' part of my post, however may I suggest making a sig out of the "AdmiralViscen IV has bad message board etiquette..." part. It stands nicely on its own don't you think?
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/8/2003 3:10:33 AM | Message Detail
Got to the last boss of Metroid Prime today. While not up to Super Metroid's caliber (hardly anything is, in ANY other game), I find this boss more impressive than I had anticipated...and raise my overall feelings about the game a bit. This is welcoming, as I had heard the last boss and level suck, but I am finding them to be some of the best parts of the game. For one thing, the scene actually looks like previous Metroid games, to a greater degree, in style and artwork.

Since I'll be getting a PS2 later this year, feel free to name any suggestions for PS2 games here, and tell me why I should consider the title. PS1 games also. I already have a list, but new titles are always welcome. The Dreamcast has this apparently nutty game called Elemental Gimmick Gear that Polas told me about. Now, I'm missing out on that without a DC, but there has got to be a couple good, obscure games like that in the PS1/2 library.
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From: jungle fighter zeb | Posted: 3/8/2003 8:21:11 AM | Message Detail
PS2 games? Well it depends on what you like.
I'm not going to go too in depth into the games, or about how they play. You can go to the reviews section for that...

Final Fantasy X is always a great option, of course I don't need to suggest that. Everyone has played an FF game before, and you know if thats your thing or not.

GTA 3/VC are a great couple of games, and get better the more you play and discover. Definatly worth a look.

I love Devil May Cry (the first, number two isn't out in Aus yet). Despite the small amount of puzzle solving, it's pretty much a fun stylish action game you will beat in a night. But if you enjoy a game you play for the challenge and not just to beat it it's a great buy. Unlocking the hard modes and making it through can be really difficult, and a lot of fun.

Kingdom Hearts is a beautiful little game, I was very pessimistic at first, but I'm so glad I bought it. It has it's faults, but nothing worth really complaining about. Meanwhile visiting the Hundred Acre woods and fighting the playing-card men in the Queen of Hearts court is like a trip back to the days of playing pretend as a child. Also if you're a FF fan then you'll enjoy seeing some of the familiar faces.

Metal Gear Solid 2 is another obvious choice. Once again it depends on what you want from a game. The gameplay is faultless, no problem there. However your enjoyment of this title depends largely on whether you like the idea of LOTS AND LOTS of lengthy cinematics, or have enough patience that you don't mind.

Tekken Tag/4. I'm suggesting both for the sole fact that a few people dislike the few changes in the Tekken formula that 4 introduced. You've probably played a Tekken game before at an arcade or a mates place. It's still the King of 3D Fighters in my opinion. I love 4, but due to some complaints I've heard I would check them both out at the arcades before deciding on one. Tag also has more characters which is cool, but most are clones and it lacks the story mode and cinematic endings of 4.

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. If you are a fan, you'll love it. If not, well... not. From a gameplay point of view, it's not bad, but pales next to many other 3D fighters on the market. However a DBZ fan will have a great time playing through the story mode and unlocking various attacks, characters and items from the show.

Time Crisis 2. Once again, if you enjoy Gun games, you'll enjoy this. A better game than others on the system, but perhaps a bit easier.

The next two I cannot actually claim to know well enough to guarantee a good game or not, but here goes.

ZOE: The 2nd Runner. I haven't played this, but I loved the original despite the horrid storyline, the shortness of the game, and the lack of enemies, challenge and level variety. What I've read and seen about the new one seems to show that they have fixed the problems I mentioned above, plus improved the lightning fast anti-gravity mech combat which made the original beautiful. I can't wait.

Sly Racoon. I've only played a demo of it, but so far it seems like a responsive and imaginative platformer with some fun stealth aspects and various ways to solve certain problems. I'm planning on giving this a better look, perhaps hiring the game out or seeing if anyone has a copy.

I'm not big on sport games, FPS, or racing games so I can't offer anything in in those genres, but hopefully I've mentioned a couple of games from a genre you enjoy.

PSOne games (no explanation)
All the FF's.
Chrono Cross.
Metal Gear Solid (a classic).
The Megaman X series.
Abes Odysee.
Point Blank.
Street Fighter Alpha 3.
Spiderman.

Meanwhile I must ask for your forgiveness if this post contains many errors or parts that make no sense, I'm tired as hell and this message is far too long for me to be bothered with proofreading.
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From: Blistered Otter | Posted: 3/8/2003 11:37:59 AM | Message Detail
This is evil. Sci gets MP the same day as me, and he gets to the final boss the same day as me.

As for PS2 games, my brother got Dark Cloud 2 recently, and he seems to be enjoying it quite a bit. But it is evil, because that Max guy sounds evilly like adult Link from OoT.

I say evil too much...
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From: Polas | Posted: 3/8/2003 2:49:35 PM | Message Detail
Damn, jf Zeb made a good effort, unfortunately I don't think Sci would be interested in any of those outside of the MMX series, unless I missed some.

Yeah, finish up the Megaman games, you'll thank yourself. MMX4 is the most like X 1-3 on SNES. A lot of people like it best because of the oogy anime cutscenes, but otherwise you'll notice little difference in overall gameplay. Zero is playable throughout, you either go through the game as X, or Zero, there's no switching. I would also argue that this game wins the "toughest overall last battle", but it's certainly debatable.

X5 is where things get a little nutty, and you may or may not like the changes. You can choose between X and Zero before every stage. The level designs get somewhat funky, but are still pretty true to the series in many cases. There's a time limit to beat the original 8 stages, but it only affects which ending you get, it's pretty easy to beat all 8 before the limit (once you do, you can go back for items with no time limit), and you can get the good ending by sheer luck even if you don't beat all 8. Dr. Light capsules no longer give you immediate upgrades, you first have to collect 4 armor parts, then you can select the new armor before a stage. The last level has my favorite X music ever. For some reason, this game feels the most "complete", I don't really know why.

X6 is a tradeoff; the Mavericks ("Inspectors") are really varied, but the level design is often atrocious. The Nightmare system ties in to rank and upgrades akin to newer MM series' like MM Zero and MM Battle Network. This may be the hardest overall X game. Oh, and the boss music is really funky. Only X game where there's a new villain masterminding everything.

I'm pretty sure you didn't like Mega Man 7 very much, and if that's the case, save Mega Man 8 for last. Although some of the boss voices are hilarious; "I'm Aqua Man .... but you can call me handsome!".

Other than that, Symphony of the Night if you can find it. I can't think of any others at the moment, but I'll try later.
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From: TiMe NuLL | Posted: 3/8/2003 2:59:46 PM | Message Detail
Castlevania: Chronicles for the old-schooler in you. I've only ever actually seen one copy of the game (and didn't buy it for some reason, and now I hate myself) but it is a remade CV1, with updated graphics and stuff.
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From: Quid | Posted: 3/8/2003 3:42:09 PM | Message Detail
"Bangai-O is the other main Dreamcast game I want (actually, the main one, since I'm getting Ikaruga for GC). Have you played that?"
I just played it. I've severely disappointed. I'm thinking maybe I got a bad version. This can't be the game I hear is so great. I'm a little dot on the screen, and when I say little, I don't think I'm exaggerating but I probably am. I played about 10 minutes, from what I remember, you play as a guy about the size of the 'M' at the top of the "Preview message" screen. The scenes while playing sounded like a bad anime show. I guess I didn't play enough to get a full opinion. But damn, for how great I've heard it is, it's pretty low on my list,

I guess I was grouping regular shooters and rail shooters as the same games. Oops, but yea, Rez is great. It seems like a game people will either love or hate, and I love it.
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From: MacDaddy Mike | Posted: 3/8/2003 4:58:07 PM | Message Detail
*POSSIBLE SPOILERS*

I have yet to play any PSX Megaman game. After playing Rockman & Forte I became incredibly iffy about Megaman 8, besides the need to see Tengu Man be kickass all over again. Of course, then I did some reading, and now I'm determined to rent or borrow a PSX to play MM8. I think the hardest part will be to get used to the new additions. Megaman can still use his buster with another weapon selected? As incredibly convenient as that is, I'd expect it to be hard to get used to, and I can already see myself hitting start everytime I want to use something. Megaman can also swim, apparantly, and Rush can't be called, but appears automatically in parts of a level. I'm surprised none of these additions were in R&F, but I guess they didn't want to completely veer off from the series.

X4 seems the most interesting to me. The story and enemies seem very cool, although the whole Iris and Zero thing keeps making me think of Wild Arms. Double and his twist seems very cool, and I'd like to see how that plays out, but I mainly want to see Sigs with a scythe. HELLO SCYTHE. Playing as Zero would be a very nice touch, hopefully with better control than in MMX3. I think this is the first game with real multiple endings--I say this as I don't find the Doppler/Zero appearance much of an alternate. This would be first on my list.

I played X5 in MicroPlay maybe a year ago, and I hated it from the beginning. The control was very awkward, and the time limit got on my nerves...but I think the most annoying aspect was Alia...does she ever shut up? It seemed like every couple of steps I get a new message, about a wall being in my way, or the screen shaking for no apparant reason. It's like Navi x 10! I got used to ducking very quickly, as it came in handy often. The fact that shots can't go through walls anymore also ate at me. Got me into a lot of trouble in one of the levels. Liked the fact there were difficulty levels. I'd try this one last, if at all.

http://mmhp.net/ScreenShots/MMX5/SigmaLaser.JPG

Oh right, I dreamt about that boss three years ago.

X6 seems to have the coolest assortment of bosses since X3, and that alone makes me crave for it. I was incredibly disappointed to find out that Zero does come back in this game, as I find he's getting far too much hype, but even more disappointed when the "random stages" hype turned out to be just that--hype. No randomness about it, just a few aspects changes depending on what levels you were in earlier. Bah to that, I say. I'd very much like to play X6 for the difficulty, and the fact that X has a saber now does nothing for me. If anything, this:

http://mmhp.net/ScreenShots/MMX6/Sigma2.JPG

Is what makes me want to even look at this game.

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From: hero of time 43 | Posted: 3/8/2003 7:58:44 PM | Message Detail
0_o I can't believe that nobody has said anything about Nintendo's decision to release a new console in 2005-2006. If Nintendo stops making games for the Gamecube when this new system comes out, then that means that the Gamecube only had a life-span of 5 years or so, which isn't very long. Oh well...This is new news right...?
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From: Moo Cow | Posted: 3/8/2003 8:06:56 PM | Message Detail
I thought a 5-year span for a gaming console was considered average.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the N64 last from '96-'01? Or something around that.
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From: Habnot | Posted: 3/8/2003 8:39:36 PM | Message Detail
For PG:

Time Splitters 2 is obviously on your list.

Einhander is an EXCELLENT shooter, and it has awesome graphics for a PS1 game.

Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2 are both fun, and the first has a great story. The second one gets a little weird, but it's still satisfying.

Sly Raccoon is a game I'd highly recommend based on the demo. Fun, fast, genius graphics and layout. It was a blast to play it through several times. And it's a platformer that can make you think. That's rare anymore.

Star Ocean 2 is an awesome game, but you hate leveling up. Nuts to you, you're missing out on an enjoyable game.

Rent Red Faction 1 or 2 just to fool around with the Geo-Mod technology.

If you'd care to, Half-Life is fun, but I'd say just rent it at first. It's a love or hate game from its layout. You may not enjoy this and Red Faction 1 or 2 due to the fact that there are no levels per say. Just chapters to help the stories.

Devil May Cry IS a good game should you enjoy a good ol' beat-em-up.

If turn-based strategy and crappy graphics are your thing, buy Civilization 2. Really fun after you get used to the graphics, but can get VERY boring at times.

All in all, you probably won't regret getting a PS2, but read up on GameFAQs on games that interest you. You're a smart fellow, so you'll find the gems among the crap.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/8/2003 8:48:23 PM | Message Detail
then that means that the Gamecube only had a life-span of 5 years or so, which isn't very long.

Right now they're saying a new system would come out in 2005, to compete with new Sony and Microsoft systems. If that is the case, 4 years would seem a bit short. But 5 seems normal, and is what the SNES and N64 were. Maybe it's just that time passes faster as you get older, eh? The "Genesis vs. Nintendo Wars" seemed to last 10 years to me when I was a younger. Really, it wasn't that long at all.

Quid: I know the characters/sprites in Bangai-O are quite small, but that looks like it could very well be part of the unique charm and style to the game. I hear it gets better as you go though, and to really appreciate the game you have to get blasts of 999 combos at once, and near-death situations. I'd also say maybe you just don't like some of the innovations Treasure makes (they made Ikaruga as well), but then again, I know you're a Super Monkey Ball fan, and that game is pretty weird, in a good way.

Thanks everyone for PS suggestions (I should have mentioned that nobody should even bother to bring up Final fantasy, metal gear, or grand theft auto though...):

Devil May Cry seems like it could be interesting- people say it's hard, so I suppose that's good. Worth a rent, at least, as McGray suggested.

Kingdom Hearts...there's another squaresoft RPG...blah. I guess Bender said it has real time battles though, but I'm still not sure I'd like it. Maybe worth renting just to see Mickey and Donald Duck alongside FF7 punks.

ZOE: The second runner is worth a look.

SOTN is a given; that would be one of the first I'd get (it's somewhat sad when most of the games I want for the PS2 end up being psx games...)

Polas and Mac: With 4 MegaMan games for the system, I really have no choice but to start out and give at least one of them a shot. So since I'm not too keen on where the regular MegaMan series was heading (MM7, R&F), I think MM8 would indeed be last on my list. Now for the X series, I've finished X1-3 now, so I think it would make the most sense to just keep going in order. Plus, X4 seems to be generally regarded as the best one for psx (okay, so maybe that's just because of the anime scenes, but still, I don't hear people saying really BAD things about this game...it seems the most 'normal' yet). Then I suppose I'd check out X5 next (which seems quite weird, but also interesting). A lot of people really hate X6 I know, though I guess Polas liked it, and it's probably good if it's fairly hard. But I think X4 is the safest bet for when I get one.

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From: Polas | Posted: 3/8/2003 11:49:08 PM | Message Detail
I have yet to play any PSX Megaman game. After playing Rockman & Forte I became incredibly iffy about Megaman 8, besides the need to see Tengu Man be kickass all over again.

Rockman & Forte blows both MM7 and MM8 out of the water, in Polas' opinion.

Megaman can still use his buster with another weapon selected? As incredibly convenient as that is, I'd expect it to be hard to get used to, and I can already see myself hitting start everytime I want to use something.

They do this in the later X games too, and it works pretty good.

Megaman can also swim, apparantly, and Rush can't be called, but appears automatically in parts of a level.

Yep. Not too much swimming, and nothing to write home about. Oh, I should also mention that since MM8 came out the same time as X4, it also has cutscenes, but they're far more horrible and are the type of thing I would mock relentlessly on my site. Dr. Light sounds like he just woke up and is chewing on his beard when he talks.

X4 seems the most interesting to me. The story and enemies seem very cool

The story is interesting because it's the only one that doesn't tie in to another X game. It takes place years after X 1-3, but has nothing to do with X5 or 6, which take place within 3 weeks of each other.

I mainly want to see Sigs with a scythe. HELLO SCYTHE.

Best 1st form Sigma as far as style goes.

Playing as Zero would be a very nice touch, hopefully with better control than in MMX3.

He's clunkier, but he has the tri-slash and I think a double jump, not sure if that started in X4 or X5.

I think the most annoying aspect was Alia...does she ever shut up?

Heh, nope. At least in X6 a little icon will pop up on the screen when she wants to talk. If you don't press select, you can ignore her, and the icon goes away when you move forward.

I got used to ducking very quickly, as it came in handy often. The fact that shots can't go through walls anymore also ate at me. Got me into a lot of trouble in one of the levels. Liked the fact there were difficulty levels. I'd try this one last, if at all.

Ducking is a good aspect. The wall thing is frustrating at first but also makes things more challenging.

http://mmhp.net/ScreenShots/MMX5/SigmaLaser.JPG

X6 seems to have the coolest assortment of bosses since X3, and that alone makes me crave for it.

Yep. The Mavericks finally shed ultra-predictable attack patterns, at least for the most part. Infinity Mijinion is one bad mutha, and a midget.

I was incredibly disappointed to find out that Zero does come back in this game, as I find he's getting far too much hype, but even more disappointed when the "random stages" hype turned out to be just that--hype. No randomness about it, just a few aspects changes depending on what levels you were in earlier. Bah to that, I say. I'd very much like to play X6 for the difficulty, and the fact that X has a saber now does nothing for me. If anything, this:

http://mmhp.net/ScreenShots/MMX6/Sigma2.JPG

Is what makes me want to even look at this game.


Zero does get overhyped, but they did back it up by giving him his own series. You don't have to get Zero if you don't want to. The "randomness" is one thing that's more annoying than good in a challenging way, they just throw a bunch of blocks at you, or turn out the lights. And yes, that Sigma form looks badass, and would be incredibly tough if not for the enemies he shoots out that contain power-ups if you kill them.

Sci: I also think X4 is your best bet to begin with.

Final note: the "board" portions of MM8 are the most annoying things ever. Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide!


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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/11/2003 12:45:40 AM | Message Detail
Rockman & Forte blows both MM7 and MM8 out of the water, in Polas' opinion.

I can't judge as far as 8 goes, but R&F is indeed better than 7. In fact, other than some fancier SNES graphics, I think MM7 is almost as bad as 6. Actually, I didn't like the MM7 style anyway, so 6 could well have been more enjoyable, even though 7 had more to do. Oh, I did like some of the Dr. Wily castle stuff in 7, especially some of the music. Burst Man's stage was also quite good. Shade Man remains one of the cheesiest, stupidest, and crappiest robot masters ever...perhaps the worst ever. His stage had the ghouls and ghosts music though, if you held down a button first. That was good, though I don't believe you could hear it again once you beat him the first time!

I think Polas mentioned R&F is a bit shorter than some others in the series...well, perhaps the final area (being only 3 stages) seems shorter, but it's HARD. I had a load of trouble there. The actual regular 8 stages were okay, and some felt more like ones in the NES megamans than 7. Those CDs would be a real pain to track down though, but the game does have the most stuff to go back to in any megaman, I think.
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From: ScumBag | Posted: 3/11/2003 6:24:32 AM | Message Detail
A new Horizontal shooter just landed on the PS1. It's called, Gekioh: Shooting King. Developed by Warashi, and Published by Natsume.
I just found out about it in the Official Play Station Magazine.Gekioh received 4 out of 5 stars, and for them to give a PS1 shooter 4 stars is a pretty good sign that it's at least okay. You're able to gain three types of weapons, and upgrade those 5 times...Though PSM neglected to mention What they are, or do. It's supposedly a straight forward shooter, with silly bonus modes, and awesome sprite based graphics. It's only $9.99 U.S. So I'll probably pick it up soon and play through to give you more details on it's quality.

I also found the original Tomba at amazon.com for $58.00 new!!!! $35 used...-_- I'll just buy Gekioh.

Mega Man 8 is pretty good, just not as cool as Rockman and Forte.The graphics are way better, and MegaMan isn't as HUGE as he is in R&F. R&F didn't seem that hard. Although I never beat R&F with Mega Man, because the damn cartridge kept erasing my damned Mega Man save files! Damn Japanese Cartridge!
Oh, and Bass deserves his own series I say, because Dr. Wily builds em' right.
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From: MacDaddy Mike | Posted: 3/11/2003 11:38:03 AM | Message Detail
MM7 was definitely my least favourite of all Megaman games. With the exception of Burst and Slash, the robot masters stunk. Freeze Man was just the typical ice guy with powers no different from the other ice guys; Cloud Man blew as much as his level did; Turbo was far too easy, and looked like a fool; what scientist pg said about Shade Man; even with his awesome appearance, Junk Man sucked, and what the **** was Spring Man? I'd say the only thing to make up for the game would be the insanely difficult final boss, and the optional fight with Protoman, which could have been done better. It seemed like they just wanted to shove a whole bunch of new item ideas into one game. Slash and Burst, though, kicked ass.

I don't see what everyone has against Megaman 6. The bosses and abilities were far above par, and the levels were as well. Blizzard Man's stage is one of the best designed stages in the series, in my opinion. The layout with the timed bombs was great, and the barricade at the boss room was always tough for me to get around at first. The only things I found wrong (and that's bolded for being very wrong) were the castle stages. A few of them seemed as if they were put together last minute, and the bosses were not un-joke-like. The final boss was alright, not as good as some of the great final bosses like MM4 or MM2, but not as bad as MM3. Alright, so the game isn't one of the best games in the series, but I definitely don't see it as bad as the original. Cause wow, that sucked.

Rockman and Forte had some great points, and some horrible ones. The game was fairly difficult, and the final boss is a pain in the ass, but overall there's low replay value. If anything, I'd say the bosses made the game. Bosses like Astro, Dynamo, Tengu, and Magic...but getting to them sucked. Astro's level is despicable, and Dynamo's is one of my most hated in the series. Tengu Man's level was very bland, and it didn't seem like it was ever going to get to something active. Kudos to Pirate Man's stage, though. The abilities were very neat, and the fact you could play as different characters was great, but that only makes for playing through the game twice. The data disk side quest was done very poorly, and data disks hidden underground were unnecessary. What's worse is that when you're through collecting them all they never come back. What's the point of that? A side quest you can complete once? And no reward? After all that I was expecting to play as Protoman! Nothing after that made me come back. I couldn't even stand beating it as Rock, and I still haven't as Forte.

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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/11/2003 12:47:40 PM | Message Detail
Scumbag: I'll check out Gekioh maybe, though I'm placing priority on several others first, of course. Tomba's that high priced? Dang. Well, I barely know what it is, but I figured it would be one I'd like more than most psx games. I saw some pretty screenshots.

I think by MegaMan 6 a lot of the ideas were pretty much dry. Most of the stages failed to impress. Blizzard's was one of the better ones in that game, I agree, but most seemed very straightforward and uninspired, like Knight Man and Yamato Man's stages. Also, maybe it was just me, but I found the X and Wily Castles to both be sub-par. I mean, it's still a good NES platformer, but I preferred the other megamans. Megaman 1 might have been worse in some ways...but that was really the first in the series and started it all...and like any first in a series, I don't feel quite right in comdemning it...usually I play "firsts" over again just (no matter how good or bad they may be) to experience the nostalgia of the original all over again. In that sense, I found MM1 more fun to play at times than MM6. Also, MM6 had that jet and power megaman instead of Rush. But you had to switch to the powers way too frequently (late in the game), and levels got very tedious. The final boss of 6 I think is one of the better ones. It's hard to do better than the doc's alien hologram from 2 and "flicker" ship from 4, but 6's battle was still cool. Music especially.

When I said burst man was the best guy from 7...I had forgotten about Slash! Mac's right, Slash is up there too. Both those levels were really cool too. Slash's was very different, and Burst had a great laboratory setting.

I suppose R&F is easier with Bass- I only played it through with MegaMan so far. The game's final boss was tough (not as tough as in MM7), but the problem I had was that it felt so rushed! I was expecting a much better fight than that. The King battles were better (great actually), and after those I expected something better from Wily. Oh, and the music in the first two king stages is some of my favorite in the whole series.

I agree with Mac about Pirate's stage being pretty good...but I did like Dynamo's too. I guess it reminded me more of the NES games, and the music was good. Astro's stage sucked, no doubt.

Also, it's true that while the discs may add replay value, it's probably mostly "artifical". If it isn't fun to actually do, I just can't consider that real replay value.

Good Crystalis sig, Mac. I should probably play through that game again soon, but lately I've been working on Rygar and Blaster Master a bit.
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From: MacDaddy Mike | Posted: 3/12/2003 8:17:45 AM | Message Detail
This has very quickly become my favourite topic.

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From: jman009 | Posted: 3/12/2003 3:10:15 PM | Message Detail
Well Nintendo Europe confirm(probably again) the Metroid Timeline:

www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.jsp?
ElementId=abe4b1f4-efa6-442f-89f8-b3f606bb5e17

add the first bit to the second bit to get the link.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/12/2003 3:30:44 PM | Message Detail
Yes, that definitely is the Metroid timeline. There's no question or wiggle room (as there may be with Zelda, for example). Sometime after Metroid 1, Samus goes to SR388 in Metroid2, the home world of the Metroids, to kill off the race for good and terminate their queen. But there was somewhat of a gap between M1 and 2, and Prime fits in there, and explains better what happened in the aftermath of 1, and perhaps suggests more of why Samus actually travelled to SR388 in 2. So Prime is really a sidestory, and I think it works very well as one.
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From: scientist pg | Posted: 3/13/2003 2:04:52 PM | Message Detail
http://planetgamecube.com/media.cfm?action=screens&id=648

For an RPG, Giftpia looks pretty cool, and seems to have some refreshing concepts. Too bad it isn't coming out in the US, where I could rent it.
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From: jman009 | Posted: 3/13/2003 2:14:13 PM | Message Detail
It's Wario World will be delayed from its June release date back to some time in Decemember, some 8 and a half months later than its original date.
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From: MacDaddy Mike | Posted: 3/13/2003 3:01:36 PM | Message Detail
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2911869,00.html

Anyone else wish they'd just end this series already?

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